A Scolding From a Majority Sentiment
To Wolfe: It is not my place to tell you to go to other forums. I
apologize for that. Perhaps I'm not completely understanding where you are
coming from. You have a lot to say and it's pretty hard to follow what you
are saying. Do you have constructive ideas that you would like to share in
the advancement of The Venus Project?
I think this movement is in it's embryonic stages of development. It's
going to take time for it to develop. However, 360,000 global members gives
me hope. The Zeitgeist movies point out very well the fact that global
monetary systems are too corruptible.
Many people agree even if they don't become zeitgeist members or
activists. We need to start connecting and sharing this vision because that
makes us a cell in the embryo. Growing to make a future that is advanced and
sustainable with the planet so that hopefully in a couple hundred years our
posterity can look back on us and thank us for being the ones that shared a
vision of peace and prosperity for everyone on this planet and worked to
make it a reality. That begins when the resources are considered the common
heritage of all and we start implementing global management systems to those
ends. We must break the back of scarcity and the greed that capitalizes from
it. It's inhumane and uncivilized but that's the system we are all raised in
and until I saw Jacque in Zeitgeist addendum, I had no other alternatives.
So to me Jacque Fresco, Roxanne Meadows, Peter Joseph and everyone that
wants to make this happen kick ass.
No disrespect to you Wolfe. I don't know where you are coming from and
from what I've seen it looks to put down the movement and the people who to
me are visionaries. If that is not the case just know that I'm off base. I
can accept that.
I would like to get together with everyone at some point and try to see
how we can move this forward in Eugene. I'm thinking somewhere
friendly, warm, quiet, and perhaps serves brew. Those seem to be the best
places for embryonic development.
Any ideas for a place?
I don't think of the Zeitgeist Movement as an easy straw man to kick
around, I think of it as noble and childish. In the recent Eeire interview,
Mr. Joseph recommends my view, that the present state of general emotional
maturity of those in the movement would turn a Venus Project city into a
catfight if they were suddenly handed it today. He quotes Mr. Fresco saying
a similar thing in expressing that the technical challenges are close to
handled and not important to focus on, but that the social technology is
seriously inadequate for an attempt.
This is the real root subject of all my Zeitgeist Movement articles. I
have been studying social technology and experimenting with it a lot. Though
I have little to show for it I nevertheless consider that I have a huge
wealth of insight about what fails, which is no trivial matter. I also
understand the conflict and passion between men and women pretty well, and
the potential disasters with that, from having spent almost three years
with what I call a purely feminine identity (not androgeny).
I am not at all corrupted by money, as so many in the Zeitgeist Movement
report that they are. I take no credit. I have never struggled with
addiction or illogical compulsion of any signficance. In my youth I thought
I did, but I soon discovered that my issues were silly whining compared to
the internal monsters and shell shock that other people wrestled with. I
have only an external view of those crises, and to me compulsively driven
people look like psychic rape victims, people whose equilibrium has been
overtly trashed using systematic social choreography that, though innocent,
is seriously evil in it's effects. I think a Venus Project can not even
begin without a total understanding and establishment of protection from
this kind of hazard, because the minimal protection offered by private
property and use of money will not be available.
In the interest in promoting understanding of this, I discuss private
property and money, not to advocate their use. I also use them for psychic
protection myself, and see that as necessary, like a psychic martial art,
not to initiate battle but solely to survive it. Though I may look like a
capitalist predator because I will not be shamed into pretense about this,
my goal is to reduce the attacks more and more till the social deceptions of
all sorts become unnecessary.
Described this way, the Venus Project challenge has no physical resource
issue to focus on yet. Until we can be sincerely glad to see each other,
with no subconscious fears or loathing, no city can coalesce. I propose
encounter; a real attempt at pretending that we are to be at least
neighbors, addressing social burnout, addressing conflicts about ugliness
and hurt feelings and sexual jealousy, addressing religious curiosity and
confusion, and conjuring a nonintellectual basis for having any
choreographic association at all.
To this end I recommend meeting at our current places of residence, with
potluck and bringing our normal toys to while away some time together. I
will bring my digital camera and Dos laptop, my Glass Plate Game, my green
smoothie and Ezekiel bread, and pick up some interesting trash on the way.
My house is a crowded one bedroom place where six people live, but I had
twenty roommates for a couple years without stress, so it can be fine for a
crowd (the Land Use people forced their eviction). I live at 2060 west 13th
in Eugene, near Garfield street. A visit is never an interuption for me, so
check it out if you get the whim. The phone gets ignored but don't take it
as a bad sign.
Towards a Zeitgeist Movement Ethic
For my own clarity I have amassed a collection of statements of
viewpoint that I can loosely attribute to some of those participating in
the Zeitgeist Movement.
- I will contribute to the economy based entirely on my inspiration to
respond to requests or apparent needs, where I have capacity to help. I
will leave assessing a compensation entirely up to everyone else, except
when asked to set a value.
- I will make requests of others without coercive pressure or expression
of entitlement, and compensate them in whatever way they hope for, if any.
- I will keep a transparent public presense, setting an example of the
values of advocate.
- I will accept the political or social dominance of other people or else
resist it with the least resulting dominance or damage to them. I will
overtly declare any dominance I hold.
- I will verbally and creatively promote large scale infrastructure design
where it has potential to reduce total environmental loading of my
community.
- I will actively seek socially unifying approaches to my own resource
use, within the limits of my cultural tolerances.
- I will keep an ongoing rough assessment of my environmental impact and
do my best to keep it sustainable.
- I will claim sovereignty over the least amount of material and property
that my creative aspirations will permit, and keep an ongoing reassessment.
- I will respond to criminal activity as a kind of social feedback, and
not as a basis for formally attacking the criminal.
These are the values that I hold, that I attribute to the Zeitgeist
Movement. Since Peter Joseph, Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows do not
appear to live these values, or even advocate some of them, and people like
Stefan Molyneux do live them, then perhaps I'm offbase in what I'm calling
the Zeitgeist Movement.
I recognize some other values expressed or implied in the movie
Zeitgeist addendum and the Orientation Video:
- No declaration of sovereignty over real estate or large scale equipment
will get social recognition.
- No technical request by anyone will be overtly refused by anyone else,
regardless of environmental impact or level of greed involved.
- All social dominance will be obtained through trickery and shaming and
keeping people confused, and no dominance will be overtly declared.
- No creative construction of buildings or equipment will be preserved in
deference to someone's feelings, even the feelings of those who made them.
I don't hold these values, but many of my associates do, both within and
outside of the Zeitgeist Movement. As a result, some people have declared
that I am not actually a member, but am what is called a troll, someone
creating verbal trouble as a tease or kind of vandalism. Peter Joseph
leveled a similar fate on the Resource Based Economy Foundation people,
apparently because they overtly define social dominance within their group,
and they shamelessly accept the presense of money in what they organize.
My legitimacy is thus in doubt.
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